Draft CCIRN Meeting Minutes
I. Meeting Attendees
Shigeki Goto(Co-Chair) Waseda Un./APAN JP email@example.com
Yasuichi Kitamura APAN JP firstname.lastname@example.org
Xing Li CERNET CN email@example.com
Simon C Lin Sinica TW firstname.lastname@example.org
George McLaughlin AARnet AU email@example.com
Yong-Jin Park(Info,Coord) APAN KR firstname.lastname@example.org
Sures Ramadass USM/TEMAN MY email@example.com
Kees Neggers (Co-Chair) SURFnet NL firstname.lastname@example.org
Agnes Pouele Dante
Karel Vietsch (Info. Coord.) TERENA EU email@example.com
George Strawn (Co-Chair) NSF US firstname.lastname@example.org
Grant Miller (Info.Coord.) NCO US email@example.com
Heidi Alvarez AmPath US firstname.lastname@example.org
Alan Blatecky NSF US email@example.com
Heather Boyles Internet2 US firstname.lastname@example.org
Maxine Brown IGRID US email@example.com
Tom DeFanti STAR-TAP US firstname.lastname@example.org
Dick desJardins NASA US email@example.com
Steve Goldstein NSF US Goldstein@note.nsf.gov
Tom Greene NSF US firstname.lastname@example.org
Julio Ibarra AmPath US email@example.com
Joe Mambretti NWU/MREN. US firstname.lastname@example.org
Mike Nelson IBM US email@example.com
Don Riley Un. Of Md US firstname.lastname@example.org
James Williams Internet2 US email@example.com
Latin America and the Caribbean delegation:
Saul Hahn OAS --firstname.lastname@example.org
Meeting Co-Chairs: Shigeki Goto
(Asia-Pacific), Karel Vietsch (Europe), and George Strawn (North America)
The meeting was co-chaired by the attending and acting Continental Co-Chairs, Shigeki Goto, Asian-Pacific Co-Chair, Karel Vietsch, European Acting Co-Chair, and George Strawn, North-American Co-Chair. The attendees introduced themselves. Kees Negers and George McLaughlin attended via H.323 videoconferencing.
2. Venue of Future CCIRN Meetings
Traditionally CCIRN meetings have been held in conjunction with INET meetings. However, attendance at the INET meetings has been falling and European attendance has fallen significantly. Discussion among the CCIRN participants identified that the CCIRN meeting should still be rotated among the three continents of North America, Europe, and Asia. Appropriate meeting venues should be sought for each CCIRN meeting. Asia is scheduled to hold the next CCIRN meeting. Professor Goto indicated that the fall 2003 APAN meeting will be held August 27-29 at Cheju in South Korea. He suggested that the 2003 CCIRN meeting be held Tuesday, August 26 in conjunction with this meeting in Cheju, South Korea.
AI: Professor Goto will work with Kilnam Chon to inform the CCIRN membership of the possibility of holding the 2003 CCIRN meeting on August 26 in Cheju, South Korea.
European representatives could be invited to give presentations at the APAN to provide increased justification for their attending the APAN and CCIRN meetings in Cheju.
Subsequent CCIRN meetings in Europe could
be held in conjunction with European meetings such as the TERENA
2004. North American meetings
could be held in conjunction with the spring meeting of Internet2 (in
Washington, DC) and Canarie meetings.
STARLight is an optical point of connectivity for international research networks and is located in the Chicago area. It provides GbE and 10 GbE services and provides collocation space for equipment and lambda connectivity. A Point of Contact for coordination of applications using STARLight is Maxine Brown. Joe Mambretti is a Point of Contact for STARLight physical media. STARLight also provides an opportunity to work on security issues internationally.
The National Science Foundation has an initiative in middleware and the Grid to develop better resources and tools for scientists. The initial software release for this initiative was in May 2002 and is available worldwide. It includes Globus, Condor, object classes, directory services, and security.
The Large Scale Networking Coordinating Group of the U.S. Federal agencies has initiated a Middleware And Grid Infrastructure Coordination (MAGIC) Team. It includes participation among Federal agency, commercial, and university representatives. It has identified an extensive list (over 100) of Grid applications worldwide. Since the science community is international we should identify means for international cooperation. International cooperation on the Grid is carried out through the Global Grid Forum (GGF). GGF meets three times a year. There is also an Asia-Pacific Grid (ApGrid) coordination. Dr Satoshi Sekiguch is the director of GRID center at AIST, JAPAN. It would be good to establish a forum where the Asia-Pacific community could coordinate with Europe and the U.S. on Grid applications, resources, and issues. In addition Internet2 has a middleware effort funded, in part, by the NSF.
Discussion among the CCIRN representatives identified that Grid is largely an implementation issue and enabling developing applications, whereas CCIRN is largely focused on research issues. The existing organizations for Grid coordination should be relied on to provide the cooperation needed on Grid implementations.
The National Science Foundation has an initiative in security research. A trusted computing program at the NSF received $5 million in funding this year. Congress is considering additional funds to increase U.S. research. Since security and trusted computing are global issues, the U.S. will look to cooperate internationally.
The Grid Physics Network (GriPhyN) program receives $30 million annually to support global physics experiments. It will be distributing a petabyte of data per month among international physics analysis sites.
European Community (EC) has
an Ipv6 project that is
testbeds. The CCIRN members have
each implemented Ipv6. Abilene is
running Ipv6 with CUDI, WIDE, and Surfnet. GEANT is running Ipv6 as a dual stack. Korea will be joining the internet2
6net. The Chinese government and
Japanese companies (NEC, Fujitsu and Hitachi) are building a native Ipv6
testbed in Beijing. (OC48). The
backbone networks are generally supporting Ipv6 but end users need to support,
and use Ipv6. Testing is needed
for large numbers of users providing chaotic routing. Ipv6 is needed more in European and Asian countries where
Ipv4 addresses are more limited.
The increasing use of mobile Internet access and addresses for large
arrays of distributed sensors also provides a strong incentive for migrating to
the use of Ipv6.
The China, Japan, Korea hub is providing central coordination of Asian networking. The TEIN network provides a Europe to Asia link to the CJK hub at 45 Mbps. The TransPac network provides a 2 x 625 Mbps link (total 1.2Gbps) form the US to the CJK hub. A new Korea to Japan link (KJCN link) will provide 1 Gbps of capacity without repeaters between Korea and Japan.
Within Japan the SINET network connects Japanese universities in a single high performance network. IMnet is combining with the SINET. WIDE will remain as a separate network. SuperSINET is an upgrade to the SINET network that provides 10 Gbps to 12 nodes from Jan 2002. The number of nodes will increase within FY 2002. Additional universities will participate at lower speeds.
Australia maintains three international unprotected research network links, Sydney to Hawaii to Seattle, Seattle to Los Angeles to Auckland to Sydney and Australia to Singapore.
CERnet, the Chinese education and research network has nine million users out of a population f 320 million students. They have 20,000 Km of dark fiber deployed. They have OC48 deployed with high usage so an upgrade is needed. NSFCnet is a network providing 10 Gbps links operated by the Chinese NSF.
International connectivity was 10 Mbps to STAR-TAP. Multicast Ipv4 is provided among 40 universities. This will eventually be increased to 100 universities.
An Ipv6 testbed is being operated at 2.5 Gbps
The next APAN meeting will be August 25-28 in Shanghai.
Malaysian networking connects to Wide. TEMAN is a Malaysian network formed in 1997 that provides a 155 Mbps network testbed. In addition, Malaysia maintains a 2.5 Mbps Internet backbone for commercial service. Working groups in Malaysia support:
- Remote monitoring
- Digital libraries
Further information may be found at: http://www.nrg.cs.usm.my
TANet is moving to a GbE MAN structure. TANET-2 provides reserved bandwidth between universities. It provides a link to STAR-Tap and the Abilene network.
ASnet connects research and education facilities to the U.S. They are building the Taipei GigaPoP infrastructure to provide IP service over dark fiber. They provide Asia Pacific research network connectivity with two STM1 links to Japan.
Korea maintains a link to STAR-TAP at 45 Mbps. They maintain a connection to Europe via a sea route t 2 Mbps. They are upgrading to 42 Mbps by the end of this year.
has 35 country members and GEANT participation is approximately the same. Each
network provides between 2.5 and 10 Gbps.
Connections between country research networks are provided by
GEANT. Some country research
networks maintain their own transatlantic links. For example, Surfnet maintains a lambda service to the
Chicago STARLight (provided by Level 3).
Lambda service was planned to CERN by KPN-Qwest. They are looking for an alternative
is an international Gigabit network.
Its first links were initiated in October 2001 and the network became
operational in December 2001. GEANT
s in New York City. Deutsche Telecom provides current
connectivity. New initiatives
Europe to the Southern Mediterranean.
It is expected to be operational soon
- CAESAR: Latin American connectivity. Planning will end in September after which the implementation phase will begin.
- NeDAP: Connectivity to Northwestern Russia from Scandinavia supported by the Nordic Council
- TEIN-II: A study led by Malaysia
- CERnet: Studying Europe China connectivity.
provided $300 Million
Euros for deployment of GEANT and implementation of Grids.
maintains a technical program
- Testing of MPLS
- Multicast monitoring
- Flow-based monitoring and analysis
- Optical networking (ASTON)
- Videoconference and streaming
- IP telephony
a joint TERENA/Dante project
studying the strategy for European research networking
for the next five years. Some of
the issues to be addressed are:
- Some national research and education networks are moving to own their own fiber. Is this a good development?
- Where are the borders of Europe
will maintain a Website at: www.serenate.org
Europe has seen the failure of several network providers lately. Most transitions to new carriers have gone smoothly and have often resulted in lower costs to the users. Fiber is very cheap now where multiple providers are competing. However, local loop costs may be high if there is only one local provider.
The Global Crossing network provides links to many South American countries. Despite its bankruptcy it is still providing reliable service. Another large South American network is provided by Emergia owned by Telefonica of Spain. 360 Networks-360 Americas provides networking to the U.S., Brazil, Venezuela and Bermuda. The AmPath project uses donated links of Global Crossing to connect Brazil, Chile and Argentina. They have negotiations underway for additional links in Mexico and Venezuela. The Retina network in Argentina connects 25 institutions. REUNA in Chile connects about 20 universities. RNP in Brazil connects about 27 Brazilian states at 155 Mbps. ANSP in Sao Paulo maintains a separate link to AmPath. CUDI in Mexico is connected to Abilene and it also has a connection to the University of California SuperComputer Center in San Diego. Costa Rico operates the Maya network providing 1-45 Mbps to its users.
ARCOS-1 is a Caribbean ring system connecting 15 countries to the U.S. and Mexico.
ALCUE is a South American, Caribbean, and Europe study group including Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Mexico. They are studying the possibility of interconnecting and peering within South America.
South American links provide a capability for science cooperation including Chilean telescopes, Atacoma array, Gamma-Ray Observatory, and the Brazil Institute for Global Change Research. In addition, Japan and Chile are testing radio telescope arrays connected by networking.
AmPath is working with Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and Mexico to form a regional backbone. Each of these countries is currently connected to AmPath via a star architecture. They are studying SDH and MPLS architecture to connect and peer within South America.
AI: Grant Miller will distribute Julio Ibarra¡¯s slides on AmPath to the CCIRN participants.
4.4 North America
Abilene currently maintains a 2.4 Gbps IP over Sonet network with 53 direct connections with 4 OC48c connections to users and an additional 23 connections at least OC12 speeds. The number of ATM connections is decreasing and ATM support will end in September 2003. The next generation of Abilene is now being planned. It will provide 10 Gbps service with native and high performance Ipv6. Measurement will be provide ubiquitously over the network with Ipv6 native peering with Cudi and Wide. MPLS will probably be used.
Internet2 is a GTRN participant. They encourage international peering at several U.S. landing points including STAR-TAP/STARLight, Seattle, Miami, New York City, and Los Angeles.
Starlight is the optical evolution of the STAR-TAP. It connects production networks at 1 Gbps, experimental networks at 1., 2.5, and 10 Gbps and research networks at 10 Gbps. STARLight is funded by the National Science Foundation. It uses a Cisco 6509 to provide a GbE exchange point, soon to be upgraded to 10 GbE. It provides a 15454-bsed lambda exchange point for the U.S., Europe and Canada. It is a backplane of the TeraGrid. STAR-TAP and STARLight will be bridged by an OC12c transit link. STARLight will have a link of 367 fiber strands to Qwest (I-Wire dark fiber). STARLight will participate in a CA*net4, Amsterdam Netherlight, CERN optical testbed. STARLight cooperates with the State of Illinois Iwire project that provides dark fiber. Each new 10 GbE costs approximately $15,000 to install.
IGrid2002 will be held in Amsterdam from September 24-26. Maxine Brown is coordinating Igrid demonstrations.
Naukanet is negotiating with providers to initiate 2 x 155 Mbps service with one link going to Europe and one link going to STARLight.
U.S. Federal agency research networking is coordinated by an Interagency Coordinating Group on Large Scale Networking LSN). The LSN initiated interagency cooperation on middleware and grid technology through the MAGIC Team. Grid projects in the U.S. include:
- GriPhyN, a grid physics network to coordinate major nuclear physics facilities within the U.S.
- NEES: an earthquake analysis collaboratory
- NEON: a biological network
- TeraGrid: a cooperative project to implement the Distributed Terascale Facility (DTF).
The Extensible Terascale Facility (ETF) is this year¡¯s implementation of the DTF. It provides a 40 Gbps backbone service (a stripe of 4 x 10 Gbps). It interconnects high performance computing, data storage and other facilities using high performance networking to transport huge data files.
The U.S> is significantly increasing funding for cyberinfrastructure including networking, compute power, huge data sets, and sensor arrays. The cyberinfrastructure integrates these resources to support revolutionary science computation and research. Science is currently limited by the tools available to support it. Cyberinfrastructure will develop the tools to enable new science capabilities.
NASA networking is driven by the need to support agency missions including the Earth Observation Grid and the National Virtual Astronomy Laboratory. Security and Quality of Service are critical tools for supporting these networking missions.
Internet Equal Effort Access Foundation (IEEAF).
The IEEAF is developing the Manhattan Landing (MANLAN). It is providing collocation rack space at Tyco, 32 Avenue of the Americas and collocation space at GEO, 60 Hudson Street. The Tyco facility has connectivity at 622 Mbps to Europe and from the West coast to Japan. The global Quilt Initiative will provide connectivity for international research and education agendas. This effort is free of conditions of Use.
Global Terabit Research Network (GTRN)
The GTRN is building a global cyberinfrastructure to support digital science and sharing of digital data. High-speed research and education networks are the glue that will tie resources and collaboration together. The GTRN is intended to provide peering within a region, using a global backbone. It will enable a stable network service supporting production traffic.
AI: CCIRN representatives should send their comments on the GTRN to Michael McRobbie at the University of Indiana or Jim Williams at email@example.com
Digital Video Working Group (DVWG)
The activities of the DVWG are project oriented rather than meeting oriented. Projects related to modalities include video conferencing, live transmissions, and visualization. Specific projects include VRVS that incorporates thousands of nodes, is highly scalable, supports multiple protocols, is global and has an easy-use interface. Access Grid, H.323 and the Internet2 Digital Video project are additional examples.
Digital media technologies include encoding standards, transmission standards, content management protocols, digital object identifiers and digital multicast middleware.
Enabling network technologies include appropriate provisioning, IETF DifServ QoS and multicast for small groups. The ICAIR Digital Video Portal allows direct access to resources, enables easy searches and enables easy viewing
Measurement Working Group (MWG)
The CCIRN MWG did not hold any meetings during the last year. However, several meetings provided a venue for collaborating on international performance measurement including the APAN meetings, AI3, Genkai, Joint Techs meeting of Internet2/NLANR, Salt Lake City IETF, and PAM 2002 at Fort Collins in March 2002. Collaboration on international measurement included the AMP project between Korea and NLANR.
Quality of Service Working Group (QoSWG)
QoSWG did not hold meetings over the last year.
DIFServe is an important enabling technology
for end users. The bandwidth
between Japan and Korea is close to saturation so that QoS is important. They have implemented BGP routing
information and Eclipse live transfers.
Quality of Service is in deployment now and has progressed beyond the
research stage. Consequently the
CCIRN decided to discontinue the QoS Working Group.
The CCIRN Website has not been maintained for a long time.
AI: The CCIRN representatives should determine if they can support the CCIRN Website
AI: Shigeki Goto will hold discussions with the APAN Secretariat to determine if they will support the CCIRN Website
6. List of Action Items Resulting from this Meeting
1. Professor Goto will work with Kilnam Chon to inform the CCIRN membership of the possibility of holding the 2003 CCIRN meeting on August 26 in Cheju, South Korea.
2. Grant Miller will distribute Julio Ibarra¡¯s slides on AmPath to the CCIRN participants.
3. CCIRN representatives should send their comments on the GTRN to Michael McRobbie at the University of Indiana or Jim Williams at firstname.lastname@example.org
4. The CCIRN representatives should determine if they can support the CCIRN Website
5. Shigeki Goto will hold discussions with the APAN Secretariat to determine if they will support the CCIRN Website